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Federal Court affirms rights of Metis and non-status Indians
January 8, 2013 - 12:15pm
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Federal Court grants rights to Métis, non-status Indians
There are already indications that the federal government will appeal.
ETA: Sorry, I hadn't noticed that this news was posted about 1/2 hour earlier in the Idle No More thread. I really don't believe it belongs in that other thread, but if the mods feel otherwise, please feel free to close this one.
It can be talked about in more than one thread but I agree its own thread is a good idea. Here is the Metis National Council's press release. This is a huge decision and while it appears to be Metis driven it actually affects more non status and off reserve FN's people than Metis.
Yeah I like it with it's own thread too -- we should try to avoid treating INM as a catch-all for aborignal issues and resistance (although it's by definition diverse and broad-based). There are many struggles, etc. Thanks for starting this thread, Unionist. This ruling definitely looks like a landmark case for Indigenous rights. Great news (and of course Harper's appealing. How would we know we were right otherwise?)
This court case highlights the problem with our legal system, especially Charter litigation. This case is already 12 years old and with appeals up to the SCC it will be 15 years at least before a final decision is made. The final decision will then start a process of trying to figure out what it means in terms of the feds funding what if any programs. The court case will not determine those critical issues and if the feds decide to stonewall and take the most narrow approach then it will be a largely symbolic decision not one that enhances the lives of the Metis people. Until the Crown brings its honour to the table there will be little progress made.
this ruling has made a huge difference to me mentally and emotionally. and it'll make a huge difference to all my family on my dad's side. we're not living in the grey zone of non-People anymore. what's really weird i didn't know it would until it did. and i bet there's 600,000or so out there who are as surprised as me about the shift in self-perception.
thanks for starting this unionist.
just wanna add to this. there's some things this wiill take care of which most people never have or will experience. like the census when your indigenous. i have to declare my FN's heritage. they sent me a letter telling me so. then i get phone calls from them asking me questions like: do i go out in to the forest and gather berries and edible plants, tan leather, make drums or carve wood. and its mandatory i answer them!!!!!!
i mean wtf? i do some of those things but not specifically 'cause i'm of FN heritage. and imv that's pretty racist questioning. stereotypes *bleck*
quizzical, how is this defined? A great many people here in Québec have Indigenous ancestry, but I'm sure not everyone with a Native grandparent can be included.
lagatta my grandma is Mi'kmaq and we have no "Treaty". it means we have no "Status". she doesn't even know what "Status" is. they speak only Acadian french in Cheticamp
the Mi'kmaq were colonized by the french long before any other FN's were. when the french lost the war to the british and were kicked out of nova scotia the Mi'Kmaq were left speaking only french/acadian without treaty or ties to britian. there's a peace and friendship agreement.
we've never ceded NS or any of the atlantic provinces. it's all Mi'maq territory. this court case makes us legally 'Indian' . no doubt it will still be a long haul but now at least we're recognized as a People.
I know Metis doesn't mean quite the same thing in the prairies as it does down east. And I know that down in the states the rule when it comes to certain things is quarter blood (which makes a bit more sense than our former sexist laws, but not all that much more sense).
But there is a big problem when a nation does not have the legal power to decide who is and who is not a member. That affects all Native people in Canada.
Here is a link to the full court decision, for those with time and inclination to read it all (it works out to around 80 pages).
A couple of points from the decision, for what they're worth, in response to lagatta's question (though I emphasize this is just the court's view - it may or may not correspond to how Indigenous people view the matter):
And:
we're not Metis and wouldn't be recognized as one.
if the Mi'kmaq had a treaty (glad we don't) i would have status. i've got friends who've less genetics than me and they have "Status" and they didn't really get why i don't until i explained. my cousins have "Status" because their moms were 'Ulkatcho'ten but not from their dad even though he's 'half' Mi'kmaq. they'd now be considered full "breed" Indian.
FN's across Turtle Island aren't monolothic and most don't know much about other Nations unless their connected somehow. i know a bit more 'cause of east coast west coast FN family connections and lived on Coast Salish Reserve for a bunch of years. and we've family friends who are Nuu-chah-nulth, Mowachaht, Haisla, Haida, Gitxsan, Cree, Saulteaux, ' Anishanaabe' Objibwe. and my mom's cousin is Haudenosaunee from Grand River (6 Nations).
oh forgot Carrier Sekani and Dene family ties. I've 2nd or would it be 3rd cousins who are Inuit but my mom's uncle has nothing to do with them only his Dene son.
@ quizzical
Sorry. I wasn't referring to you personally; just pointing out that regarding some Native groups - specifically Metis - there isn't one definition from coast to coast. But more importantly, until Native nations control their own membership they will have limited sovreignty.
it's pretty tangled in some cases _smith. in some cases many Nations would have to recognize just 1 person.
in another twist couple years after they got DNA from 2 long dead Beothuks in 2006 or 7 someone contacted my mom to go for DNA testing 'cause her family were in the Bonavista Bay area since the mid 1600's. she hasn't done it yet 'cause if she doesn't have the DNA then her family prob helped wipe them out.
I remember back in the 90s having a conversation with a fellow who was Sinix - a nation from the BC Interior who were declared extinct. In reality many of them had moved stateside for a number of reasons, including the epidemic which had decimated their people.
i think* they've found some who have Beothuk DNA. never heard of the Sinix. it's a typical story "there was no there we we came".
As expected, Ottawa to appeal
http://sinixtnation.org
... and Ottawa LOSES!!!
Unanimous Supreme Court ruling says Ottawa has jurisdiction over all indigenous people
It is great news, but it will take a lot of work and time to work out the details. I'll definitely read the ruling (in French and in English) when I have the time.
It may change the balance of power within First Nations Communities, where so many have not been considered 'status', due to inter marriage with Europeans...
The ruling upholds the trial Judge's decision and is rather narrow in scope. It does not mean that non-status Indians have a right to join a particular band it only means that the federal Crown owes these people a fiduciary duty. It will mean that the Metis community and urban native communities will get to negotiate with the federal government for program funding.
http://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/15858/index.do?utm_sour...
Right.
It would be rather (what's the word?) colonialist for a Canadian court to decide who can join which band. Not our business.
But I think the confirmation of federal responsibility is potentially huge. Otherwise the perps (both Liberals and Conservatives) wouldn't have fought against it in court for 17 years. Where it goes from here, I don't know...
I didn't find this joke funny but poignant. Ifear it says it all about what the 17 year court battle has won the Metis and non-status Indians.
Really quick info to help understand the Daniels case
It does not mean that non-status Indians have a right to join a particular band it only means that the federal Crown owes these people a fiduciary duty. .....
......according to a friend and one of the initiators of this action, the above is incorrect, that the decision has huge implications!
the children of a couple, mixed marriage, will have the right to join the band of their mother or father...
I am afraid that "your friend" is not a credible legal source. This case has absolutely nothing to do with the relationship of individuals to specific band counsels and their rules on membership in their First Nation. As posted above this is a credible summary of the effects of the ruling. The Inuit are also "Indians" under the Constitution thanks to a court case but they have no right to join a Dene First Nation and that is the same for the non-Status "Indians" and the Metis who have now been determined to be "Indians" under the Constitution.