Trudeau's Political Suicide?

O'Leary grew up in Montreal, but doesn't speak French. Such people existed generations ago, but he was born in 1954, not 1924.

I'm not a Liberal, and no Trudeau fan, but positing that contemptuous piece of shit isn't serious.

And isn't he the guy who wanted to outlaw UNIONS?????? Unfortunately, I'm all out of rotten fruit, but I live close to Jean-Talon Market and can easily find some ammunition in their dumptsers. What rotten fruit of veg is the worst on expensive suits?

Those who do don't vote for the Cons.

I'm not at all surprised that Trudeau is breaking his promises. That is what the Liberals do. But little as I like Trudeau, his government remains a relief with respect to the previous one.

It's also annoying that he has opened at least half a dozen threads like this, linking to not-very-insightful pieces by Robert Billyard - and never once offering a comment. I don't know why any even engages conversations here.

Hi Sean,

I am pleased you are such a devoted fan of mine.

 I somehow had the impression these forums are supposed to be about content and issues and not trashing each other’s work.  You may not like what I write or my style of writing but we just do the best we can.

  It has been my experience on forums and comment sections that those who indulge in trash talk, abusive and flippant comments, and off topic criticism are merely confirming they have nothing intelligent to say on the topic.  Then too, maybe they are just plain lazy and uninformed.

 The challenge here for you is to write something on topic that I find worth reading and edifying.

 You might even be so bold as to post your comment on my site, as that is one on the main reasons it is there.

 I look forward to your reply.

 Regards, Robert Billyard      

Wow how interesting. You post an article and do not say it is yours. I wrote ON TOPIC critiquing the article. Had I known it was yours I would not have replied if I did not have something nicer to say.

I think your approach borders on trapping people -- posting an article looking for comment without saying it is your own and then getting offended when you don't like the review.

I did think the article was poor but my comments were not trashing you as I had no idea the article was yours. I did not trash the author of the article either as I was not familiar with the author.

Is your paragraph about trash talking meant to be about me? If so, you are the only one trash-talking a person. I was reviewing an article.

How I could be a fan of a person from one article I did not like, or be presumed to be speaking about a person when that person was never connected to the article?

Next time -- why don't you just say -- here is something I wrote?

If you do not want to be identified, do not come back and connect yourself to it once you have entrapped people into a review of yourself rather than some article you found.

I did write a scathing review of the article and I stand by my review.

As for forums being about content -- yes they are. You posted an article which I discussed. It is your problem that you did this in the way you did. I was on topic and had no idea I was talking about the work of someone here.

I did find this strange "The challenge here for you is to write something on topic that I find worth reading and edifying."

Not at all. I do not write for one person otherwise I would send a personal message. My challenge is not to write something you find interesting. People do not post just for the author of the opening post, they share their opinion with anyone who wants to read. So perhaps you are a little confused about the point rather than me.

If you want to just get compliments then this is not the place to do it. Take it to your friends and family. People here will consider and give a real opinion but you must be prepared for whatever that is.

I don't like the article because of the writer's contempt for the Canadian electorate, who are often faced with "lesser of evils" choices.

I found this quite amusing.

Mr. Billyard, it is not up to Sean, or anyone else to write something you find worth reading. You may find nothing worth reading, but that's your problem, not ours.

And I agree completely with Sean in this. You wrote, then posted, the piece without telling anyone you were the author. That is a good way of gauging reaction to your deathless prose, but then you give it away when you emerge to castigate someone for their criticism.

You have a choice, you can either ignore the criticism, or you can use it to improve your writing skills. But don't post something anonymously then jump out at the first signs someone doesn't think much of your writing. It's pretty much guaranteed to cause people to ignore your future writings.

I read the article, and didn't think much of it eiher. I will try to offer some advice on improving it.

The simplest way to improve your article is to get out your red pencil, and cross out all of the adjectives. Adjectives are fun words to use, but they don't improve either the readability or the sense of the article. If you start by removing all adjectives, you get down to the point you are trying to make.

It may be only my opinion, but it is my opinion, that adjectives obfuscate rather than clarify. A very few well-placed adjectives can add a bit of spice to an article, but like all spices, they're more effective when used sparingly.

Once you have removed the adjectives, it's easier to see whether there are internal contradictions in the article. Sean pointed out a couple, which means he read your article fairly closely. You should thank him for that, I couldn't fight my way through it.

One final piece of advice. If you don't want criticism, don't ask for it. Criticism can be a very useful tool for the writer, but it can also have a sharp edge. If you're not prepared to deal with that sharp edge, it's better to just write your stuff, post it, and leave it at that.

Sorry but in all the important issues he is at least as bad as the Cons only he smiles while he screws people over. Indigenous people can't even get Human Rights rulings upheld. He has okayed Site C, LNG and Kinder Morgan, His Ministers are talking tough about using the military to remove protestors from unceded lands. The new relationship with the people working for the government was really nice. His Treasury Board just didn't pay them and it seems that fixing the problem was not a priority. He is selling massive amounts of arms to Saudi Arabia. Etc Etc.

I know yo are not a Liberal and never implied you were I am just disagreeing that he is any better. Personally I hate hypocrites worse than in your face assholes. IMO Harper was an asshole and Trudeau is a hypocrite and a two faced liar.  I actually dislike him at least as much as Stevie. The arrogance oozes out of his pores like it did his Dad except his Dad was an intellectual not an selfie model.

Brilliant, Rev Pesky. Thank you! I think that belongs in the Babble Hall of Fame.