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I Predicted 3 Yrs Ago Megan Leslie Would Be Defeated

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terrytowel
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So why didn't anyone believe me?

http://rabble.ca/babble/election-2015/liberal-mpp-laurel-broten-to-take-...

Andy Fillmore (who beat her) fits into the Libs narrative of an 'urban agenda' that is part of their election platform for cities across Canada. Him being an urban/city planning activist, he has been influential voice in the Halifax's urban-planning discussions for several years.

So it is not like he is a no-name to the residents of Halifax. He is well-known and is considered a star candidate, in Halifax.


KenS
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It was a huge Liberal wave that cbeat Megan Leslie. Washing away everything in Atlantic Canada is what it took to carry Andy Fillmore.

Your statements 3 years ago are the same baseless wishes now that they were 3 years ago.

Like the saying goes, monkeys banging om keyboards long enough will eventually produce something recognizable.

You got your wish against the odds. Congratulations.

As of Monday Andy Fillmore is not the nobody he was.


terrytowel
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Like I said in politics anything can happen.


josh
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Wow. You're a regular Kreskin.


Unionist
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Fantastic! Supernatural!!

But don't sell yourself short - some of your recent predictions are just as psychic:

terrytowel, on July 21, 2015 wrote:

Election is less than 13 weeks away, NO WAY can the Liberals turn this around.

They should just concentrate on hanging on to the seats they have now as

IT'S OVER!

Contrary to Yogi, in this case, it was apparently over before it was over.


Arthur Cramer
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KenS wrote:

It was a huge Liberal wave that cbeat Megan Leslie. Washing away everything in Atlantic Canada is what it took to carry Andy Fillmore.

Your statements 3 years ago are the same baseless wishes now that they were 3 years ago.

Like the saying goes, monkeys banging om keyboards long enough will eventually produce something recognizable.

You got your wish against the odds. Congratulations.

As of Monday Andy Fillmore is not the nobody he was.

To expand on what Ken said, and quoting Bob Newhart, "to be or not to be, that is the gozornunplast!"

Want a bannanna Terrytowel?


Debater
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Yes, Terry Towel, you were correct, but the circumstances under which Megan Leslie lost were different than the ones you originally envisaged.

Atlantic Canada giving the Liberals all 32 seats was because of Harper becoming so toxic that the region decided they needed to plunge a dagger into the Harper Vampire.

Other than Montréal, Atlantic Canada was the only place in Canada where Harper was so hated.  He succeeded in wiping out even the Conservative strongholds in Fundy-Royal (goodbye to homophobe Rob Moore) as well as New Brunswick Southwest and Tobique-Mactaquac.  Harper really outdid himself.

He ended up taking down not only the last remaining Conservative MP's in the East, but the NDP MP's as well.


terrytowel
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Well I told people that the Liberals were polling at 50%! But everyone dismissed that saying Megan Leslie was safe,

http://rabble.ca/babble/election-2015/liberal-mpp-laurel-broten-to-take-...


Stockholm
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Terrytowel, I'm sure you are enjoying gloating over the defeat of someone you hate as much as Megan Leslie...

You also predicted that the hated Laurel Broten would run for the liberals after she had been run out of Toronto by a posse of teachers with pitchforks, what happened to that prediction?

Someday maybe you can explain why you suffer from "NDP derangement syndrome' and seem to have such a pathological hatred for anyone who belongs to the NDP. What happened, was your mother an NDP supporter and she didnt love you?


nicky
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I predicted three years ago that Terryt...l would become the Pierre Polievre of Babble.


terrytowel
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Stockholm wrote:

Terrytowel, I'm sure you are enjoying gloating over the defeat of someone you hate as much as Megan Leslie...

No it is just that no seat is ever safe, and this just proves it.

And you had said two years ago

Stockholm wrote:

I think the federal NDP will do BETTER in Nova Scotia two years from now - being freed from having to defend the Dexter government and the federal liberals will be handicapped by a soon to be very unpopular McNeil government that is certain to break every promise it has made.

That didn't happen


terrytowel
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nicky wrote:

I predicted three years ago that Terryt...l would become the Pierre Polievre of Babble.

And you also said re Robert Chisholm

nicky wrote:

I suspect he will run ahead of his party in 2015.

Psephologists in Australia and the UK write about what they call the "sophomore surge." Where a new MP is running for re-eletion after his or her initial win he often does better than the national swing, having built up a personal vote he did not enjoy when he first ran. 

This effect is accentuated where the sophomore MP defeated an incumbent. That incumbent's personal vote is dissipated in the next election and the successor candidate for his party has more difficulty making up ground.


Stockholm
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If you really have nothing better to do with your time than to troll, gloat and needle people about predictions/comments they made years ago - then I think you are very mean-spirited, sad, miserable person. It must really suck to be you.


Unionist
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This thread is contrary to babble policy, because its title is focused on an individual babbler.

Please refer all complaints here.

Thank you.

 


KarlL
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TT,

There are a great many predictions that you made that don't hold up well in hindsight: "OVER! (ad nauseam) ", the psychic thing, wrong-headed posts about the role of the Governor-General, etc.  If we are doing a greatest hits and fails, you live in a very large glass house.


KarlL
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And speaking of people who should eat their words, this deadpan savaging of The Big Shift is one of the best things that I have read.  

A pitch-perfect obliteration of John Ibbitson and Darryl Bricker, being two Conservative jerks, from Bricker's days in Mulroney's PMO and Ibbitson's hagiography of Mike Harris' 1995 crew.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/book-review-the-big-shift-why-stephen...


terrytowel
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Stockholm wrote:

If you really have nothing better to do with your time than to troll, gloat and needle people about predictions/comments they made years ago - then I think you are very mean-spirited, sad, miserable person. It must really suck to be you.

Moving forward we now have to acknowledge NO seat and NO MP is immune from defeated. That is my only point.

Remember in 2014 I said Cheri DiNovo was going to be in the political fight of her life to hang on to Parkdale-High Park. Everyone here slammed me for that. But she won by the narrowest of margins, roughly 600 votes.

So when an MP is facing a challenger we need to acknowledge that anything can happen. That no MP seat is safe.


Misfit
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But she won and you were wrong. And what is your fixation with female NDP MLA's and MP's anyway? Olivia Chow, Sheri DiNovo, Meghan Leslie... Oh, and Alexa McDonnough is not a former female leader of the NDP, but a former leader of the NDP.

nicky
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You're absolutely right Misfit!!! There is a distinct pattern here. Terryt...l does exhibit a type of pathological misogeny against women NDP politicians. He should seek help immediately.

kropotkin1951
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What the fuck is this thread doing on this site. It is gross and obnoxious and clearly breaks ever trolling rule in anyone's book.


Unionist
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nicky wrote:
You're absolutely right Misfit!!! There is a distinct pattern here. Terryt...l does exhibit a type of pathological misogeny against women NDP politicians. He should seek help immediately.

Just because terrytowel is being idiotic doesn't give you the right to make disgusting statements like this - not even in humour. So if you're not capable of just using pure good-hearted humour here, I strongly advise you to reconsider. Actually, an apology wouldn't be bad.


Unionist
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And terrytowel - old buddy - if this is the kind of degeneration you were looking to provoke with this thread, you've succeeded. Maybe you should reconsider your style of plucking wings off flies and seeing what happens. It's unhealthy for real discussion.


jjuares
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This thread should be closed.

terrytowel
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nicky wrote:
You're absolutely right Misfit!!! There is a distinct pattern here. Terryt...l does exhibit a type of pathological misogeny against women NDP politicians. He should seek help immediately.

MegB has suspended you for your pathological misogeny, not me. So that says it all.

Unionist wrote:

And terrytowel - old buddy - if this is the kind of degeneration you were looking to provoke with this thread, you've succeeded. Maybe you should reconsider your style of plucking wings off flies and seeing what happens. It's unhealthy for real discussion.

Point well taken. But I have to say if the roles were reversed, the NDP Kool-Aid drinkers would be mocking me for my prediction 2 yrs ago had Megan Leslie won her seat.

If you notice in the above thread 2 years ago, they had already ripped me to shreds for suggesting Megan Leslie would be vulnerable. If she had won they would have continued to mock me for even suggesting she would lose her seat. So either way they would ramped up the attacks against me no matter what the outcome was.

We can't even have a serious discussion without rapid personal attacks being flung by the some of the rapid NDP partisans here. This thread just proves it.


Brachina
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terrytowel wrote:

nicky wrote:
You're absolutely right Misfit!!! There is a distinct pattern here. Terryt...l does exhibit a type of pathological misogeny against women NDP politicians. He should seek help immediately.

MegB has suspended you for your pathological misogeny, not me. So that says it all.

Unionist wrote:

And terrytowel - old buddy - if this is the kind of degeneration you were looking to provoke with this thread, you've succeeded. Maybe you should reconsider your style of plucking wings off flies and seeing what happens. It's unhealthy for real discussion.

Point well taken. But I have to say if the roles were reversed, the NDP Kool-Aid drinkers would be mocking me for my prediction 2 yrs ago had Megan Leslie won her seat.

If you notice in the above thread 2 years ago, they had already ripped me to shreds for suggesting Megan Leslie would be vulnerable. If she had won they would have continued to mock me for even suggesting she would lose her seat. So either way they would ramped up the attacks against me no matter what the outcome was.

We can't even have a serious discussion without rapid personal attacks being flung by the some of the rapid NDP partisans here. This thread just proves it.

 Most of us wouldn't have remember nor cared. Hell I still don't.


Ken Burch
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Why was it so important to you so see Megan Leslie defeated, terry?  It's not as though any NDP seats needed to go Liberal for Harper to be deposed.

Did Megan Leslie kick your dog into rush hour traffic or something?

As to your point about no seat being safe...well, so what?  


terrytowel
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Ken Burch wrote:

Why was it so important to you so see Megan Leslie defeated, terry?  It's not as though any NDP seats needed to go Liberal for Harper to be deposed.

Did Megan Leslie kick your dog into rush hour traffic or something?

As to your point about no seat being safe...well, so what?  

As Chantal Hebert (member of the best political panel on Canadian TV) said on election night

"The NDP sacrificed the next generation of the NDP to compete with the Liberals in pursuit of power"

So don't get mad at me, get mad at the NDP election war room who sacrificed these great NDP MPs in the pursuit of power.


felixr
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The biggest shock for me from Atlantic Canada wasn't that Leslie lost (halifax is a swing riding) but that Harris did. The last two elections he won with over 70% of the vote. 


Misfit
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Nicky did not say anything that was out of line, IMO. In fact, when I tried repeatedly in the Olivia Chow thread to point out to TT that his opinions of her were sexist, he chose to deflect rather than listen and take notice. The points I tried to make were ones that were voiced by Olivia herself as being offensive and sexist. So yes, I do agree with nicky that there may be an underlying problem with misogyny here.

jjuares
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By virtually all accounts she was a good MP and doesn't deserve this almost celebratory thread. This thread is nothing but an an unseemly example of schadenfreude. It is ugly and reflects badly on TT that he/ she started it.

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