Nuke Waste Dump Proposal Near Lake Huron Raises Alarm
Nuke Dump Proposal Near Lake Huron Raises Alarm in US
http://rt.com/news/nuclear-waste-michigan-us-protest-840
"Plans for a nuclear waste facility near the US-Canada border - less than a mile from one of the world's largest sources of fresh water - has triggered a public outcry among Americans and Canadians..."
It's low level (majority of stuff) like used underwear and some intermediate stuff. As stated, At the same time, Kraemer played down the potential risks of the Deep Geologic Repository [nuclear dump], pointing to the decision of his own residents to continue living in the town.
“These people know nuclear; they know the safety of it, and they choose to live here,” he told the paper.
There is a belief that if one creates nuclear waste, one should be responsible for ensuring it is safely contained.
Just to be clear
DGR Key Features
Stop The Great Lakes Nuclear Dump
http://www.stopthegreatlakesnucleardump.com/kincardine.php
Concerns re: Proposed Kincardine Nuclear Waste Repository
http://www.ceaa.gc.ca/050/documents/p17520/83709E.pdf
Interesting that an international reknown environmentalist has some very interesting things to say about nuclear and climate change.
http://www.monbiot.com/category/nuclear/
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Saying that, one could consider building instead a Thorium reactor on site which turns that waste into an asset. In this article Out of Steam
And talking about nuclear here's another interesting article W&J event addresses use of nuclear power, climate change
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Another argument for nuclear posited by Shellenberger and others is that while environmentalists have proposed ways of using less energy as a way to fight global warming, “we can’t keep using less energy forever.”
He noted that as more energy becomes available, “we find more uses for energy.”
He said the introduction of smartphones, with their ability to deliver data “use as much energy as a refrigerator” when all of the factors, such as the energy needed to drive the servers that provide the information, are taken into account.
The subjects also note that expansion of electricity generation will only continue to grow, because as Cravens states, “electricity can improve people’s lives,” adding that “the countries with the best quality of life consume the most electricity.”
According to Shellenberger, energy use is expected to double between now and 2050 and quadruple by the end of the century.
While acknowledging the large, upfront capital costs of building nuclear plants, Shellenberger adds that the plant will last between 60 and 100 years.
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So as we sit here on our computers and using our smart phones we are consuming energy as we type away. Many express concerns about fracking and what that does to our environment and our water system. Nuclear and particularly thorium.
I'll leave the last word to Monbiot who puts the whole energy and carbon reduction strategy into perspective
End point:
The price of nuclear is going up as the price of solar and wind comes down, and the technology of the latter improves to include storage capacity.
..to continue with the growth we had 15 years ago is not sustainable let alone what we have today. using nuclear is madness as it is only going to happen so that the status quo can continue. we need de-growth and a different economy where life is celebrated over the profit of the few. most people know this for themselves just by living their life. it almost takes willful blindness to miss it.
considering how much solar and wind generation would be needed, and the fact that land and water space would be used up, don't think it would happen. So to replace one nuclear reactor with wind generation would require wind turbines erected all along lake huron shoreline from the Bruce Pennisula to say Sarnia, and ten miles deep. And b/c it's intermittent, it would need a back up of natural (fraked gas). Hmm, not going to happen.
And it doesn't have to be profit for a few but where everybody benefits.
And the cost of nuclear, in Ontario, is much cheaper than either wind or solar, as per kilowatt and return.
when I click on "about us" it doesn't tell me anything about who they are or who is funding/backing them. Seriously, the lack of transparency and keeping "whoever" hidden from view concerns me.
txs jan
..we agree here.
..most people are not going to trust the canadian state to protect our interest nor should they. same goes for provincial govs. look how they are behaving re the tar sands/pipelines. remember walkerton. in a sense your arguments are backwards. first you make a system where people have control and then you make your argument for nuclear. this is not a numbers game when we can see what is going on in japan. not to mention the problems with the storage of nuclear waste.
http://www.intoeternitythemovie.com/
..in the mean time urban sprawl continues as does the demolition of perfectly good affordable housing for more profitable condos. the individual car continues to flourish and we build more and more roadways while mass transit struggles for funding and fares increase. the natural resources we do have are shipped out for profit rather than creating jobs here. more and more our democracy is thwarted by trade and other global deals, plus parliaments who act for the interests of the elite. first we need a system that benefits people first and then lets talk about building nuclear. see if we really do need it.
Well, I guess I'm more with Monbiot here in that if I can't do anything until I built the perfect system or world the planet will die.
..there is no perfect system. but there is a terrible one and that is this one where people have close to zero control over the outcome. nuclear is not where you want to experiment. consequences are just to great. the planet will survive while life may not.
I'm sorry but the consequences of not are greater in my view.
..i get that jan. i disagree but i get it.
Conservation is the best way to save energy and negate the need for new. Also the cheapest. I'm not in favour of shutting down nuclear plants unless they are too old and unsafe. Just not in favour of new ones. There is no such thing as a perfect system but the technology we have now is pretty good (talking about renewables).
that's what they said about Fukushima too...
Scroll up to see what happen with Fukushima. Having said that the candu reactor is a totally different system than Fukushima, and last time I checked no Ontario nuclear plant will be hit by a tsunami.
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After Flint, Don't Let Them Nuke The Great Lakes Next!
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/26/after-flint-dont-let-them-nuke-th...
"Ontario Power Generation (OPG), the nuclear power utility that owns 20 atomic reactors across the province, proposes burying the resulting radioactive wastes at its Bruce Nuclear Generating Station.
Oh, by the way, Bruce is already the single largest nuclear power plant in the world, by number of reactors - eight.
The dump at Bruce in Kincardine, Ontario, would be less than a mile from the Lake Huron shore, just some tens of miles across from the tip of Michigan's Thumb and upstream of the drinking water intakes for tens of millions of Americans, Canadians, and Native American First Nations.
Ironically enough, Flints newly restored safe drinking water source.
*Stop The Great Lakes Nuclear Dump STGLND has collected 92,000 petition signatures*, and has helped gather more than 180 resolutions from Ontario and every Great Lakes state.
Children are the most vulnerable. There is no safe level of exposure to ionizing radiation, and health damage accumulates over a lifetime..."
Keep playing with nuclear fire - one day you will get burned.
*add yours if it isn't there yet.