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Misogynist judge desperately seeks to save his job
September 9, 2016 - 5:09pm
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Justice Robin Camp tells inquiry he's learned from 'hurtful' comments he made at sex assault trial
They really should tie his knees together and usher him out into the street.
Why does he even want the job? And how did he ever get it?
Certainly his misogynist comments grab the headlines, but I'm also pretty puzzled that he would refer to the victim as "the accused". I would assume that the job is ideally one of those "detail oriented" jobs X10.
Oh Jesus Christ, really.
Lots of shock and dismay in my circles about Brenda's testimony.
Educate him, sure.
Testify on his behalf? Why???
Good question. Is she also from South Africa?
Were these sessions ordered by the inquiry, or the Province? Or were they a voluntary attempt on Camp's part to give his image a car-wash?
Because it strikes me as kind of odd that a sitting justice would need a layperson to edumacate them on the law, and assign readings like he's an undergrad.
The fact that he doesn't simply have the decency to resign proves that he is beyond education, if proof were required. A shithead like this wouldn't survive in my workplace, and trust me, I don't get paid for judging people. I do it pro bono.
When the complaints surfaced, Camp who had already moved to the Fed Ct, issued a statement of apology. The Ct said that he was undertaking a program of education "at his own expense".
Experts were paid by him, and testified to that, and their positive impressions of him.
And, yeah, the idea that he was clueless about criminal law but it's alright cuz he was a commercial litigator is absolutely incredible. Why, then, would you place such a person on a PROVINCIAL COURT where he will be hearing crim trials day in and day out? You think there's lots of cases of securities that would come across his docket? His ignorance/lack of experience is further indictment, not a bloody justification!
I will say, Magoo, that judicial education is a "thing" but it tends to be more formalized and systemic. Conferences and retreats. As an academic I've participated in several. You get put up in nice places like St. Andrews by the sea, chat, schmooze, lecture, do exercises with them, and get something like $500-1000 honorarium.
Brenda testified that she gave him an exam. Honest to God. I'd pay good coin to see it.
I agree. If he had any decency he would not be struggling so mightily to save his skin. His testimony today belied the glowing portraits. Very subtle but unmistakeable impression that he is just mouthing stuff.
Oh. And he referred to the complainant as "the accused" AGAIN.
Perhaps it was all True/False. In which case your good coin could also pass it.
Nice one, Magoo.
Unlikely in the extreme he'd be disbarred, and that would require a separate proceeding.
But it's not like he'd get lots of offers anyway.
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/09/under-fire-judge-camp-wrap...
More from Mallick's excellent article:
just popped by Babble to see if this inquiry was being discussed. Does anyone (Pookie?) know how long it might take to get a decision? What are the chances of his removal? According to this CBC article, only 2 judges have been recommended for removal since 1971.
I cannot believe that this man has the gall to defend himself. What an incredible display of entitlement. On what basis does he believe he is qualified to remain a judge? He should have quietly resigned and slinked away in shame.
I would love to know what Conservative party leadership hopeful and self-proclaimed defender of Canadian values Kellie Leitch thinks about this guy's immigration to Canada. /rant (for now).
Hi Summer - nice to see you!
No real rules about how long it will take. I'd say at least a couple months for a decision from the Inquiry Committee which then must be reviewed by the entire CJC. Both of these will be made public. If we're lucky, it will be wrapped up by Christmas but it might take six months or more. If the recommendation is for removal he'll almost certainly resign but if not, then there would be further steps at the federal executive and Parliamentary level.
Based solely on precedent, chances of removal are slim, but given current social sensibilities we may be in an era of setting new precedents. Tough to say.
Thanks Pookie! I fear you are right about the chances of removal but I am holding out hope that the panel will surprise us. Sigh.
I am going to do something I never do, and predict they will, in fact, vote to remove. You can all yell at me later.
I'm hoping you're right!
Fire him,take away his pension and offer him no severance pay.
He can go become a Mennonite,milk cows,churn butter and surround himself with folks who share that opinion.
You know, alan, countering his ignorance about women with another kind of ignorance is not the way to go. You obviously have a lot to learn about Mennonites.
A first look at key decisions made at Assembly 2016
If you want to find religious analogies with his honour the judge, try the Catholic Church.
That was my initial reaction and then I came across this. Seems that most Xian sects have the same recurring problems. It is a major side effect to a strict patriarchal system.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/old-order-mennonite-sexual-abuse-...
Thanks, Seems I'm not as ignorant as you think.
Not sure why we're diverting this thread, but krop posted an article about "Old Order Mennonites" - which are a medieval sect forming approximately TWO PERCENT of Canada's total Mennonite population of 200,000.
So before ridiculing "Mennonites", alan (and you too, krop), inform yourselves, please.
Your Lurking Conservative here. Not often do I find myself in total agreement with babblers, but I do on this issue. The man is appalling. His defence is appalling--ignorance of the law that he is being paid over $330k a year to deal with. Appalling that he didn't just resign. It is possible that they won't turf him out? That would be mega-appalling....
Fire him, sure. And if it's with cause, my understanding is that no severance is owed.
But on what grounds would the government take away money he's earned? Even Russell Willams didn't lose his pension, and he MURDERED women.
That's insanity. The best way to stick it to government employees (that includes the Armed Forces and Judges) that make light of rape or actually murder someone is to take away their pension.
Probably not going to happen but I think that's the logical policy. Force them into destitution.