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Killings at Québec City mosque

lagatta4
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I'm putting this news flash here for the moment, though moderators should feel free to move it to anti-racism or any other relevant topic as news comes in:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.39... Evidently several people have been killed and others wounded, and two suspects have been arrested.


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Unionist
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*bump*

alan smithee
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So far the terrorists who have done this yelled 'Allahu Akbar' in a heavy québecois accent. 5 dead reported so far.

We have not been targeted by terrorism by muslims,targeting them for a mass murder doesn't make sense. I hope the suspects are caught and are hanged in public at Place D'Youville or something.

This is not Belgium or France,this act was senseless. Question is,will there be retribution? Congratulations you right wing shitstains for destroying our peaceful nation.


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The CBC had some interesting material today about the rise of the extreme right in the thirties We are going to have to be vigilant to ensure it does not happen again https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-30/quebec-city-police-sa...

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Someone beat me to it with the "let them eat cake" comment https://ca.style.yahoo.com/ivanka-trump-dress-tweet-refugee-ban-20261092...

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alan smithee wrote:

So far the terrorists who have done this yelled 'Allahu Akbar' in a heavy québecois accent. 5 dead reported so far.

We have not been targeted by terrorism by muslims,targeting them for a mass murder doesn't make sense. I hope the suspects are caught and are hanged in public at Place D'Youville or something.

This is not Belgium or France,this act was senseless. Question is,will there be retribution? Congratulations you right wing shitstains for destroying our peaceful nation.

I stand fully with what alan said there.


josh
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Awful. It appears that Trumpism has bled across the border. Or instigated existing xenophobia.

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Webgear
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Another case of men with mental issues attacking the innocent and defenceless, it is very sad and disappointing that 6 people had to die in this horrible attack.


Webgear
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I got this from twitter from a friend, not sure how accurate it is.

The two suspects are Bashir al-Tweed and Hassan Matti both recently from Syria.

Is this a case of Sunni Islam and Shia Islam attacking each other?


josh
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Could be.  Has happened before.  But if they're recently from Syria, why would they have a heavy québecois accent?


lagatta4
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This remains to be seen. Definitely some kind of far-right attack: we remember that the vast majority of victims of Islamist terror are Muslims (just as the vast majority of victims of Christianist terror are Christians). The question is whether they are the homegrown far-right or from afar.

I don't think there is any more reason for such an attack in France or Belgium, actually.

Unionist and others who live here, there will be a vigil at the park between the Mosque and the Provigo le marché (formerly Loblaws), métro Parc of course or the 80 bus for many people. I don't have the time yet; I imagine that it will be announced on Radio-Canada and CBC and certainly over the net. I'll post more details when I find them.

My condoleances to the friends and family of the victims and to all the members of the mosque and those who are Muslim or of Muslim backgrounds targeted by this hate crime. Fuck all violent far-right thugs, whatever their ethnicity or purported religion.

 

 

 


alan smithee
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lagatta4 wrote:

 

I don't think there is any more reason for such an attack in France or Belgium, actually.

 

 

 

I never suggested Belgium or France deserved an attack. I was implying that if white nationalists/supremecists were to commit a terrorist attack on a Mosque,I can understand the motivation in those countries as they have suffered some major terror attacks perpetrated by radical Islamist. We have not,hence there is no reason for any type of retribution. It was completely senseless.

Stop putting words in my mouth. It's starting to piss me off. Thanks.

 


Caissa
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Do we have any evidence that this was terrorism?


lagatta4
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alan, I have no animosity towards you whatsoever. Please don't take what I said personally; it is something I hear all the time. I don't believe in Québécois or Canadian exceptionalism, that's all.

There was an interview with a journalist who was retiring from covering the Québec National Assembly on Radio-Canada, and he mentioned the names of the two suspects under arrest. One was a name typical of the Maghreb, the other a very common francophone Québécois name. Both were men, aged from late 20s to early 30s

Edited to make a slight correction: I misheared the surname of one of the suspects; it wasn't a name restricted to the Maghreb, but Khadir. As we know, QS MNA Amir Khadir is of Iranian origin, but it could be a name of Arabic origin borne by anyone of a Muslim culture.


josh
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The two men arrested following the deadly shooting at a Quebec City mosque Sunday night are Alexandre Bissonnette and Mohamed Khadir, Radio-Canada has learned. 

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.39...


alan smithee
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lagatta4 wrote:

alan, I have no animosity towards you whatsoever. Please don't take what I said personally; it is something I hear all the time. I don't believe in Québécois or Canadian exceptionalism, that's all.

 

Thank you. And sorry for getting upset. I agree with you very much about Québécois and Canadian exceptionalism. I don't subscribe to Nationalism.


Mobo2000
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This is just awful.  

 

 


montrealer58
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Caissa wrote:

Do we have any evidence that this was terrorism?

The Canadian and Quebec Prime Ministers have called the shootings terrorism, and the Crown is investigating them as a terrorist offence, according to the CBC.


lagatta4
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https://twitter.com/hashtag/attentatquebec?src=hash

The vigil here is at 6pm, well, basically when most people get out of work. There are other vigils elsewhere in Québec, in Canada and in other countries. 


bekayne
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Webgear wrote:

I got this from twitter from a friend, not sure how accurate it is.

The two suspects are Bashir al-Tweed and Hassan Matti both recently from Syria.

Is this a case of Sunni Islam and Shia Islam attacking each other?

Fake news that was being pushed all over twitter last night


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http://globalnews.ca/news/3213677/quebec-city-mosque-shooting-alleged-gu...

Alleged gunmen identified as Alexandre Bissonette and Mohammed Khadir


montrealer58
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Now, the police are saying one is a suspect and one is a witness. But not which is which.


Hurtin Albertan
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And now only one of them is considered by police as a suspect, the other one is apparantly just a witness.

I'd copy and paste a link but I can't do that from this computer for some reason.

The Montreal Gazette website where I found the story didn't say which one is the suspect and which one is the witness.

I will refrain from further comments until more information gets released.  Speculation is pretty much pointless at this point.

My heartfelt condolences to the victims, their friends and families.  Seems to have been an excellent response from the local police for the most part.


Edzell
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CBC radio one Victoria(?) reported this morning:

Police say of the two arrested, one is suspect, the other a witness.


bekayne
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Bissonette is the suspect


bekayne
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kropotkin1951
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So were did the stories of two masked gunmen come from?  


josh
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Reports from Quebec media, including La Presse, TVA, and Radio Canada, say that Alexandre Bissonnette is the lone person suspected in the shooting. 

 

http://globalnews.ca/news/3213677/quebec-city-mosque-shooting-alleged-gu...


alan smithee
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Surprise,surprise. A right wing twit. It's funny that he was angry about the death of the soldier from Val-Cartier. The person who killed him wasn't even a muslim but a confused white Québecois de souche. And big surprise,he is a fan of Martine Le Pen.

I think Canada should refuse entrance to people like Le Pen who just incite hatred and violence. She was recently in Canada,meanwhile George Galloway is banned. Brilliant.

Time for this country to ban far right nationalist nutjobs from entering this country. Period.

ETA; The CPC should shun Kellie Leitch who is Canada's Le Pen. If they don't,their words today is just a bunch of crap blown out their asses.


quizzical
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alan smithee wrote:
ETA; The CPC should shun Kellie Leitch who is Canada's Le Pen. If they don't,their words today is just a bunch of crap blown out their asses.

i agree.

Jason Kenney spoke out against Trump's actions and imv he should be speaking out against Leitch too.


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