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Americans 5 - Canadians 3 (Men's Hockey)

Sven
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Sven
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Un-be-liev-able.


Michelle
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Shut up.


Sven
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Michelle wrote:

Shut up.

Tongue out


Boom Boom
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Michelle: You made me laugh.Laughing


Fidel
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It's the preliminaries. We might not even play the Americans again. Miller with saves though. He's underrated.


Jaku
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Without Miller the US would have been blown out of the water...nonetheless a huge disappointment...Hockey...suppose to be OUR game!!!!!


Boom Boom
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Ridiculous to have highly paid NHL prima donnas in the Olympics.


Sven
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Jaku wrote:

...Hockey...suppose to be OUR game!!!!!

The best way for you guys to get revenge?  Beat the Americans in basketball in 2012!! Wink


N.Beltov
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Canada will have to play the Germans (cakewalk) and then the Russians. At that point, beating the Russians will take Canada to the Semis. I kinda like the idea of Canada having to beat, well, EVERYONE, to win a medal.

 

It's all good, it's all hockey. That's what we're supposed to care about, right? Good hockey, whoever plays it?

 


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Maybe some of that "buy the podium" cash should have gone into goaltender development.  Compared to Ryan Miller, Marty looked kind of bush league-ish.

No matter, let's get out there and take it out on the Germans!

Tongue out


Sven
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ReeferMadness wrote:

Maybe some of that "buy the podium" cash should have gone into goaltender development.

Marty B is, if not the very best goaltender of all time, one of the top three goaltenders of all time.


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Sven wrote:

ReeferMadness wrote:

Maybe some of that "buy the podium" cash should have gone into goaltender development.

Marty B is, if not the very best goaltender of all time, one of the top three goaltenders of all time.

Hmmm....

First, I don't know how you go about comparing goaltenders "of all time".  The game changes over time, making comparisons pretty much impossible.

Second, I'm not the guy to have that debate with anyway, since I pretty much stopped watching NHL years ago.

Third, other guys who might want to have that debate would argue that Marty's defence (New Jersey??) makes him look good.

Fourth, if I was foolish enough to enter into such a debate, I would point out that according to the NHL statistics, Marty faces fewer shots per game than Miller (26 v 31) but still has a higher GAA.  From the stats, Marty doesn't look like the best guy in the game at the moment, not by a long shot.

Finally, whatever the outcome of that debate, the bottom line is that Marty was the second best goalie tonight.  And by a huge margin.  He faced half the shots and let in more goals.

There are lots of diehard Martin Brodeur fans out there that will stick up for him even if he does something stupid like trying to hit the puck like a baseball (oh, wait he did!) or trying to jump on a puck well out of the crease (oops, he tried that too!).  But tonight, he had a shitty game.  And I'd be surprised if Babcock started him next game.

 


Fidel
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Well Marty Brodeur is the all-time shutout king after breaking Terry Sawchuk's record. They played at different times though and under different conditions. I've watched Ryan Miller stone the other team on more than one occasion, and his Sabres haven't always played the same kind of tight defensive game that Brodeur's Devils are so well known for playing infront of him. Miller sometimes seems to be Jason of Halloween infamy behind that mask when he's in the groove. He's damned good and last night was his usual scary self. Miller's in their heads now. And what Team Canada needs now is an EXORCISM!


DaveW
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yeah, try Luongo for game 4;

I saw Canada vs Germany at Torino in 2006, however, and it was not  a pushover; Canada led 3-2 or 2-1, as I recall in the middle of the 2nd before finally taking off for the win

but could GER pull an upset? that would be a bit like Tunisia upsetting Brazil in soccer, but these things happen ....

back to Canada-US: when Crosby and Nash were clicking, it was excellent, and they easily could have had 3-4 goals between them; Nash also threw his weight around quite a lot, amazing for a guy known as a floater, and with that big reach reminded me of Frank Mahovlich or even Mario sometimes...


Caissa
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I think Luongo will see action against Germany. Brodeur certainly had too much adrenalin flowing on the second goal.


Boom Boom
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DaveW wrote:
back to Canada-US: when Crosby and Nash were clicking, it was excellent,

Wouldn't they be even better with Stills and Young? You know, C, S, N, & Y?

 

 

Okay, I'll go now.... Tongue out


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Caissa
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Tony Stiles

is the best we can come to an NHL player named Stills. Maybe Young, Wendell can play the next game for Canada. http://icehockey.wikia.com/wiki/Wendell_Young

Sven
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Caissa wrote:

I think Luongo will see action against Germany.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bobby Lu is in the net for the Canadians for the remainder of these Olympics.


N.Beltov
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10 Things We Learned from USA - CAnada

 

Number 1 is amusing. Since the media in 1980 was full of stories about the "superiority" of the American "way of life" over the Soviet version, then, obviously we have

1. The Democratic Republic form of government is superior to Parliamentary Democracy

 

and so on.


Sven
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I think this, unfortunately, pretty much captures how most Americans view hockey:

"As a 13-year-old in 1989, Drury led his Trumbull, Conn. Little League team to the LLWS championship. He later switched to hockey, won the Hobey Baker Award, a Stanley Cup, an Olympic silver medal and now scored a goal in the USA's upset of Canada. Yet he's probably unrecognizable in 98-percent of the households in the United States."

Actually, 98% may be too low.


Fidel
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One in three chance for Canadian children having asthma

In Canada, 1 in 3 Canadian families cannot afford to enrol their kids in organized sports and recreation

Come on! Show your pride, Canada, and let's turf these thundering nitwits from the halls of power in Ottawa!

 

 


Sven
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This pic pretty much says it all:

Canadian fans felt the highs and lows of hockey during Sunday's game against the United States.


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Quote:
 Nash also threw his weight around quite a lot, amazing for a guy known as a floater

Surprised Are you serious, where'd you get that intel?  Nash is the real deal, he's just stranded on a very mediocre NHL team that no one ever watches.  I don't know about Babcock's constant shifting of the top line, I think he should show a little more patience in letting them gel but Stahl does have hot hands right now and might be a good fit with Crosby.  Luongo could be the goaltender Team Canada needs, he's got a very good home record, knows the building better than anyone and deserves a shot.  The US were outplayed but Miller was incredible and could be the Dominek Hasek of 2010.  It's been great hockey and unless there's a catastrophe tomorrow, the game against Russia should be amazing and regardless of who wins the Gold medal will likely be the best game of the tournament.


DaveW
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how did I learn about Rick Nash??

-- by living in Switzerland in 2004 and 2005 and seeing him play regularly on a line with Thornton  for Davos HC, to start ...

How many times would I be watching the defensive zone, to my right, then look over to centre ice, at my left, and there was Nash floating about, waiting for his breakout pass ?? When/if he gets it, it's away to the races, but NOT a defensive stalwart, the least you can say.

I love the guy, best moves in the game -- even up against Ovechkin! -- charges the goal at impossible speeds and angles, and he matches well with some icons like Mario, the Big M, Espo and other Team Canada heroes, but ... will never win the Selke trophy Tongue out


Sven
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I posted the following in the TV ratings thread for the Olympics, but it's probably more pertinent in this thread:

 

CTV is reporting that the Canada v. USA game on Sunday was the most-watched sporting event in Canadian history.

It wasn't game seven of the Stanley Cup.  It wasn't a game against the Russians or the Swedes for Olympic gold.  It was a non-medal, preliminary hockey game against the Americans! 

Is there a bigger focus on Americans in Canada than I had realized?

When I was listening to ESPN this morning while getting ready for work, the commentator said, with respect to this story, "Don't let Canadians ever tell you that they don't care what Americans think of them."

Okay, folks, what really explains the positively astronomical Canadian interest in this particular non-medal hockey game??


DaveW
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2-3 reasons:

1. the USA is a good hockey-playing country; they were gold-medal finalists at the 2002 Olympics and winners in Montreal of the 1996 World Cup, among other good performances: we recognize talent.

2. The thing was broadcast at an excellent time slot on Sunday evening with all eyes on the first Olympic Games held in the country in over 20 years.

3. And yeah, there is some big brother-little brother stuff; but hey, I would have preferred Russia.

Enough said.


Sven
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You folks in Canada may not believe this (but, then again, maybe you will), but this is on the front page of the "Hockey" link on NBC web pages for the Olympics:

"A regular ice hockey game consists of three 20-minute periods with 15-minute intermission[s] after the first and second periods. Teams change ends after each period."

I'm not sure what an "irregular" ice hockey game is. Sealed

I'm surprised that it doesn't continue like this: "The game is played on a rather large sheet of frozen water and the participants ("hockey players") have footwear which is similar to rollerblades, only instead of rollers, the footwear is equipped with a long, slender metal blade on the bottom of the shoes which allows the "hockey players" to glide on the surface of the frozen water.  The "hockey players" have a keen interest in obtaining possession of an object called a "puck," which is a black disc made of hard rubber (but it's not a big disc like a frisbee -- it's more like the size of a baseball, only it's flat on two opposing sides).  The "puck" is maneuvered about the surface of the ice by the "hockey players" using bent sticks (which are often humorously referred to as "twigs" or "lumber" -- hahahahaha!!!).  The object of the game is to insert the puck into a basket guarded by a "hockey player" of the opposing team who works diligently to prevent puck insertion (unless his name is Marty Brodeur, in which case he only pretends to prevent insertion -- and that is considered to be extremely humorous by the opposing "hockey players" and their fans -- hahahahaha!!!)..."


Jingles
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Our pampered millionaire elites are better at their sport than your pampered millionaire elites.


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