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Kevin O'Leary

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NorthReport
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As I suspected would happen Kevin O'Leary has shot into the lead in the Conservative Leadership race which should be a wrap for him The big question facing Canadians is do they want Donald Trump Two to be their prime minister If it is a contest bewteern O'Leary and Trudeau in the next election the NDP may be fortunate to keep official party status

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I see no resemblance at all between O'Leary and Trump. Apart from them both having hosted TV shows. O'Leary is a classic Paul Martin Liberal. He wants to cut corporate taxes and deregulate and is "pro-Busines" but a lot of small "c" conservatives are aghast at O'Leary because he is pro-immigration, pro-choice on abortion, gay positive, wants to legalize pot and he supports generously funding the CBC. On foreign policy he says Canada should not join any wars and should concentrate on peacekeeping He sounds a lot LESS scary than most of the other people running to lead thé Tories

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Well, one of the other people seeking the nomination, maybe. That's about it.

And the resemblance to Trump is not just because of temperment and lack of any real analysis:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/olearys-nutbar-remark-breach-of-poli...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqemytQ5QA

but also because of his lack of political experience, and the fact that his presumed business acumen is just part of the act.

Not that there aren't differences between the two, but on O'Leary's part it does seem more than a bit like trying to cash in on a trend. Seeing as they are that gullible down there may as well see what you can get away with up here too.

 


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O'Leary will win because Conservatives are depserate for someone to finally take Trudeau down.They are willing to ignore that O'Leary is basically a Liberal in terms of social policies.

This after mocking the Liberals for turing to a celebrity and saying they are desperate for a messiah to lead the Libs from the political wilderness. Now they have turned around and are doing the exact same thing with O'Leary!


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Trump hit a home run today at the Boeing plant All O'Leary has to do is talk about jobs like Trump is doing and he will be our next prime minister The left are such fools ignoring the always number one election issue jobs, jobs, and more jobs

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Stockholm wrote:
I see no resemblance at all between O'Leary and Trump. Apart from them both having hosted TV shows. O'Leary is a classic Paul Martin Liberal. He wants to cut corporate taxes and deregulate and is "pro-Busines" but a lot of small "c" conservatives are aghast at O'Leary because he is pro-immigration, pro-choice on abortion, gay positive, wants to legalize pot and he supports generously funding the CBC. On foreign policy he says Canada should not join any wars and should concentrate on peacekeeping He sounds a lot LESS scary than most of the other people running to lead thé Tories

He also wants to gut our social safety net. Therefore,it doesn't matter about his stance on other issues. He's a worm.


alan smithee
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Also,just like I predicted about Trump,O'Leary would fall right into line with Conservative official policies. Che Guevara could run for the Conservatives and even he would be forced to be a right wing prick.

As for 'jobs,jobs,jobs' How does a government create jobs? There is only one way to do so and that's through progressive policies. We all know what Conservatives think creates jobs. Hand outs to corporations and tax cuts to the rich which,if anyone has been paying attention for the last 30 years,is a complete failure.

The Conservatives are all about catering to the rich and attacking the poor. And when they do attack the poor,it has nothing to do with jobs or fiscal responsibility. It's about being a prick. And the CPC is a bowl of pricks. We can't afford to go backwards and re-elect a Conservative government.

The bright side is O'Leary is unilingual. That will hurt him in an important province like Québec. If you want to stop them before they even start,cheerlead Leitch or someone like that. They'd never get elected.


josh
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NorthReport wrote:
Trump hit a home run today at the Boeing plant All O'Leary has to do is talk about jobs like Trump is doing and he will be our next prime minister The left are such fools ignoring the always number one election issue jobs, jobs, and more jobs
http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx

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alan smithee wrote:

He also wants to gut our social safety net. Therefore,it doesn't matter about his stance on other issues. He's a worm.

So does every single solitary person running for the Conservative leadership. So remind me why we are any worse off with O"leary compared to Bernier or Leitch or Raitt etc...?


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Stockholm wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

He also wants to gut our social safety net. Therefore,it doesn't matter about his stance on other issues. He's a worm.

So does every single solitary person running for the Conservative leadership. So remind me why we are any worse off with O"leary compared to Bernier or Leitch or Raitt etc...?

I'm not denying that. It's precisely what I said in my comment directly below the comment I initially posted. I find it curious that certain people on this board are cheerleading O'Leary. We know the Conservatives and they are just becoming more extreme with every year that passes. Why would anyone cheerlead any of these assholes on a progressive board?


NorthReport
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If someone says O'Leary will become PM you need to give your head a shake if you think it necessarily translates into cheerleading for them

alan smithee
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NorthReport wrote:
If someone says O'Leary will become PM you need to give your head a shake if you think it necessarily translates into cheerleading for them

Maybe you should give your head a shake thinking that O'Leary will be the next PM. He has zero political experience or background and is nothing but a TV personality.

Canadians are watching the gong show happening in the states. I think you should get out of your stupor and realize that by the time the next election rolls around,the disaster in Washington will scare off many from voting for someone without any political experience who is a TV personality.


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Stockholm wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

He also wants to gut our social safety net. Therefore,it doesn't matter about his stance on other issues. He's a worm.

So does every single solitary person running for the Conservative leadership. So remind me why we are any worse off with O"leary compared to Bernier or Leitch or Raitt etc...?

Bernier is the worst of the bunch when it comes to the social safety net.

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alan smithee wrote:

 I find it curious that certain people on this board are cheerleading O'Leary. We know the Conservatives and they are just becoming more extreme with every year that passes. Why would anyone cheerlead any of these assholes on a progressive board?

If you're talking about me...I'm not "cheerleading"...i'm just saying i don't get this hysteria about O"leary as if he represents some unique existential threat to Canada in a way that no other conservative does. Just last night he said again that he is 100% gay positive and wants to legalize marijuana and is 100% pro-choice on abortion anfd is pro-immigration...on economic policy he is as bad as all the others. On social issues he is probably the least harmful of the 14 people running.

If a CPC led by ANY of these turkeys forms government, its bad news - O'Leary is no worse thsan the others and in any ways he is the lesser of the 14 evils


alan smithee
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Stockholm wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

 I find it curious that certain people on this board are cheerleading O'Leary. We know the Conservatives and they are just becoming more extreme with every year that passes. Why would anyone cheerlead any of these assholes on a progressive board?

If you're talking about me...I'm not "cheerleading"...i'm just saying i don't get this hysteria about O"leary as if he represents some unique existential threat to Canada in a way that no other conservative does. Just last night he said again that he is 100% gay positive and wants to legalize marijuana and is 100% pro-choice on abortion anfd is pro-immigration...on economic policy he is as bad as all the others. On social issues he is probably the least harmful of the 14 people running.

If a CPC led by ANY of these turkeys forms government, its bad news - O'Leary is no worse thsan the others and in any ways he is the lesser of the 14 evils

I wasn't referring to you,Stockholm. And I'll have to agree with what you said. But to me,a Conservative is a Conservative is a Conservative. They are the scum of the earth.


josh
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NorthReport wrote:
If someone says O'Leary will become PM you need to give your head a shake if you think it necessarily translates into cheerleading for them
No, I give my head a shake because I'm still waiting for Prime Minister Mulcair.

Sean in Ottawa
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O'Leary is very extreme on economic issues. Leitch is more dangerous in my view.

The reason I think this is that the whole Conservative party is very right wing now. The added dimension of hate that Leitch brings will take all the air away from the economic policies they woudl bring in. The population would be so distracted by the appalling Leitch hate train that they will not be able to oppose the other things that any Conservative in this group is likely to bring in.

Bernier is very nasty but at least his radical ideas would be exposed. O'Leary is a crackpot who would probably damage the country in some of the ways Trump is damaging the US -- by being arrogant and erratic as well as extreme.

 

The big problem really is that with the different universes of opinion, the entire Conservative party and their supporters are far removed from everybody else. (The reverse is also true.) This means that the prevailing opinion in governemnt should they be elected will be that of a small minority uninformed by the rest of Canada. That is the real danger.

The Liberals have set up a radical Conservative party government by breaking their promise on PR, which would have made that impossible. Whichever the next Conservative PM will be Trudeau is her/his dance partner and that Conservative government will be Trudeau's legacy.


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If Kevin O’Leary were the leader of the Conservative Party, the Liberal lead (38%) over the Conservatives (37%) would be just one point among decided voters, while the NDP (17%), Bloc (4%) and other parties (4%) would be well back. Three in ten Canadians either don’t know (23%) or wouldn’t vote/would spoil/not choose any (8%) in such a matchup.

http://ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7554

Trudeau  38%

O'Leary 37%

NDP 17%

Bloc 4%

spoil - 8%

Undecided or wouldn't vote 23%

 


Sean in Ottawa
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I am guessing the Liberals have kept an archive of the "just visiting" ads about Ignatieff that they will share with us should O'Leary become leader -- they guy who called Boston home.

I am even wondering if the makers of those ads in the Conservative party -- who are loyal to other candidates might give us a preview.

Some attack ads have a way of backfiring much later and this might be the case.


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I think O'Leary will win because Conservatives are desperate for a "star" to knock off Trudeau once and for all. Which is ironic because CONS mocked Liberals for turning to a messiah (their word) to revive the party. Now the CONS are doing the exact same thing with O'Leary!


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Just visiting ads worked because Ignatieff wasn't branded yet and he lacked presence. That isn't the case for O'Leary who is known from Dragon's Den as well as Shark Tank. He is recognized as Canadian by Canadians.

In going liberal on social issues such as LGBTQ rights and abortion and immigration O'Leary becomes a serious threat despite his lack of French.


Mighty Middle
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Pondering wrote:

In going liberal on social issues such as LGBTQ rights and abortion and immigration O'Leary becomes a serious threat despite his lack of French.

That will split the party because 25% still consists of Social CONS. However if they truly despise Trudeau more than they care about Social Issues, they may swallow it just for the chance for Trudeau to be taken out electorally.


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Mighty Middle wrote:

Pondering wrote:

In going liberal on social issues such as LGBTQ rights and abortion and immigration O'Leary becomes a serious threat despite his lack of French.

That will split the party because 25% still consists of Social CONS. However if they truly despise Trudeau more than they care about Social Issues, they may swallow it just for the chance for Trudeau to be taken out electorally.

The Conservatives have been a house divided for a long time. O'Leary is of the libertarian branch. He puts his social libertarianism on his 23 year old daughter's shoulders saying she tells him that young people will accept nothing else.

It is interesting that some NDP support migrates to O'Leary if he become leader.


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Pondering wrote:

It is interesting that some NDP support migrates to O'Leary if he become leader.

That is a dangerous thing to say


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