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NDP leadership race 2
June 9, 2016 - 7:43am
Continued from here.
Further to mark_alfred's somewhat facetious post:
After 20 hours, the total is now up to: $10! At that viral rate, Cheri will have her registration fee in approximately 6 years and 10 months.
You know, if she actually had an ounce of humility (that jury is still out) and could bring herself to retract her condemnation of Ontario student activists against Israel apartheid, and her obscene incitement to beef up Harper's "sanctions" against Russia, I'd give $10 myself. She's not a bad person, but those are big flaws.
The problem with DiNovo's 'unofficial' candidacy is that it risks making a mockery of the NDP Leadership race.
Several political commentators have been joking this week that they will 'unofficially' throw their hats in for NDP Leader.
Chantal Hébert & Andrew Coyne have been having fun Tweeting about it, amongst others.
I think it makes a mockery of Cheri DiNovo personally...the actual contest will get very serious very quickly next fall when some OFFICIAL candidates start to throw their hats in the ring
My prediction is that DiNovo will "drop out" and end up endorsing Niki Ashton for leader.
Not that an endorsement from DiNovo will help anyone.
Do endorsements ever make much of a difference anyway?
A $30k fee is unbecoming of a sociailist party.
I agree absolutely, but was there no discussion about the fee when it was set? And who set it? Was it an arbitrary decision by some group of NDP executive? Was it discussed at the convention?
The reason I ask is because it seems to me that the time to question the 'entrance' fee was at the time it was instituted. But I have no idea when or who put it in place.
My understanding is that the National Council set the fee at its May 15 meeting in Ottawa. They are the governing body of the party between conventions. Theoretically.
The thrill is gone:
Cheri DiNovo GoFundMe site
Now the big question:
What did the sleazy mofo do with all that money???
A competitive campaign to lead the party will cost at least a million dollars. Anyone who doesnt think they can raise a measly $30k (less than a third of what a typical riding campaign costs) is not a serious candidate.
The nomination contest itself will cost the party close to a million dollars to stage - people who want to run have to help cover the costs of running the contest.
In 2012 the leadership campaign was seven months long and the entry fee was $15,000. This time the contest is more than twice as long at 17 months.
Party members elect people to sit on the federal council of the party and they make decisions on how the leadership contest is to take place. I assume they debated all these issues a few weeks ago when they set the date for the contest.
Well this party member disagrees with the decision, including the length of the campaign; YMMV.
Maybe you should have run for a seat on federal council and you could have had some input into the decision.
Video: Coffee With Cheri Dinovo
Ricochet Media interviews Cheri DiNovo on her "unofficial" campaign for the leadership of the federal NDP.
Last I heard that GoFundMe campaign had raised all of $10. That was yesterday.
The length of the campaign is a serious problem. The people who made those decisions are seriously delusional if they think that the Canadian electorate is going to stay interested in a leadership campaign that lasts longer than a minority government.
I have not seen anything on how the voting is to be done and whether it will be one member one vote and when the cutoff date is for voting rights as a new member.
The Constitution specifies that leadership races are OMOV. There's now a link on the NDP website with some information about the leadership race. http://www.ndp.ca/leadership-2017 From this url, there's a document "Rules from NDP Federal Council", which states,
Presumably the final voting day is "no later than October 29th, 2017".
http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2690176871/
Interesting discussion with Eric Grenier, Robin MacLachlan, and Sally Housser, about the upcoming leadership race. They talk about potential candidates. From it I learnt that Charlie Angus is bilingual. Mike Layton's French is shakey, but he apparently is working on this.
Yes, I know, I posted that.
Still doesn't answer my question.
Where is the $10????
Stockholm makes a valid point.
While it's fine in theory for a candidate to protest the entry fee, in practice it is a necessary reality that political parties have to find a way to fund themselves.
How does a party pay for the cost of a leadership convention if the price of running is free, or virtually nothing?
And how does a leader demonstrate to their party that they can raise funds for a general election if they aren't able to do so in a leadership campaign?
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Fundraising is the bane of our politics. Can't live without it but it becomes such a large focus that it gets in the way of democracy. Here is great piece showing just how bad it has gotten South of the border.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylomy1Aw9Hk
Yes, a return to the public financing that was once briefly in place would be a good thing to advocate for.
Why, pray tell, should it be the responsibility of the candidates to fund the PARTY'S leadership race?
a good point Caissa. i hadn't thought of it.
*deleted* I misunderstood Caissa's point. I get it now.
Good news. Cheri DiNovo is going to officially enter the leadership race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vda1LgHORS8&feature=youtu.be
Good. She made some valuable points in that speech, and will bring a needed perspective to the race. Could she have chosen a worse venue to launch her official campaign though?
Crappy audio too.