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Quebec's NDP "gaggle of political neophytes" II

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Continued from here.


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Wilf Day
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As I was saying in the previous thread, I was hoping that someone would note the most remarkable, IMO, of these week's speeches (in the previous thread) by the "neophytes," by the MP for Brian Mulroney's old riding, Manicouagan, Jonathan Genest-Jourdain, 31, municipal candidate in 2009 in Sept-Iles, lawyer, Innu band member. Deputy critic for Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development:

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When I say that I come from Uashat it is important to understand—and this is what history teaches us—that Jacques Cartier very likely landed close to the current location of my community of Uashat. History also tells us that the Innu displayed boundless tolerance and acceptance. They even lavished the new arrivals with care, and the existence of so many Canadians today serves only to support this undeniable fact.

Let us simply imagine that in the 16th century, when Jacques Cartier arrived, new arrivals suffering from advanced malnutrition had been put into preventive detention—so that their files could be reviewed—or that the authorities refused to consider the cases of immigrants suspected of the slightest criminal activity. There was no bureaucracy or those kinds of procedures at the time, but it serves to highlight a number of truths. It is unthinkable, is it not? We also understand that Canada was very likely populated by people who simply wanted to leave Europe or who had every reason to do so.

And yet this is what we are witnessing today: measures that run counter to the generous and open character of Canada, where traditionally we have not had immigration policies designed to circumscribe the admission of newcomers to the land. Traditionally, the Innu had a somewhat broad, somewhat vague vision of the concept of land ownership, which is still true today. So when the newcomers showed up, they simply shared the land, which was huge in any event, as well as the resources. They exhibited unbounded openness. This is the approach that should be taken in measures to regulate immigration to Canada, in keeping with that traditional intent and the interaction that took place several centuries ago. . .

The community I come from makes it a point of honour to ensure that these traditional philosophies remain the basis for our values and what the people in my riding have access to. So, yes, it is still true in 2011. The Innus from Uashat make it a point of honour to show great openness to others, which also benefits us.

Echoed by Romeo Saganash "The generosity shown by Aboriginals to those who first came here still underpins the philosophy of the First Nations and has long been the philosophy of our party, the NDP, on this side of the House."

Mind you, the speech by Anne Minh-Thu Quach was a very close tie for first place.


Wilf Day
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Here's a thread very like the previous one, but in French, and with pictures: Nos Nouveaux Députés Québécois NPD.

http://forum.fnnation.com/showthread.php?t=94035

Some comments are not typically WASP, such as "Anne Minh Thu Quach, la très hot nouvelle député de Beauharnois Salaberry."

Have fun.


Sarann
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Wow!  Some young miss shaking her finger at Vic Toews.  CPAC coverage of debates is more interesting than any other program I can find.  Who knew?


Wilf Day
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This is the sort of thing that makes me intensely proud of some of the NDP's "accidental MPs:"

"La députée Laurin Liu à Durban"

http://www.leveil.com/Actualites/2011-12-10/article-2830495/La-deputee-Laurin-Liu-a-Durban/1

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La députée néo-démocrate de Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, Laurin Liu, a participé ces derniers jours, à titre d’observatrice, et non comme membre de la délégation canadienne, à la 17e Conférence des Nations Unies sur les changements climatiques qui s’est terminée le vendredi 9 décembre à Durban, en Afrique du Sud.

She turned 21 November 13.

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At the time of her election, she was pursuing a double major in History and Cultural Studies. She was active on campus as a board member of CKUT radio, a representative to the CKUT Programming Committee, an employee of McGill university's undergraduate student union, and a staff member of the McGill Daily.

Liu was raised in Pointe-Claire, Quebec. Prior to attending McGill, she was a student at Royal West Academy and Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf. At Jean-de-Brébeuf, she became politically active by founding the NDP campus club. She later moved on to be co-president of the youth wing of the Quebec section of the NDP.

Liu, whose parents came to Canada from China in the 1980s, is fluent in French, English and Cantonese.


Vansterdam Kid
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You know, I'm really quite impressed with some of these newbies, who make me seem old in comparison. They seem to have taken to the job quite well and should become more formidable with age.


Wilf Day
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Sun Media's Parliamentary Bureau Chief David Akin says Christine Moore is a star:

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. . .for this final look back at 2011, I thought we ought to note that work of a handful of MPs who, in the opinion of their peers in the House of Commons, have served their constituents and Canada well since the election of last May. Just before Christmas, I canvassed MPs from all parties and asked them which one or two MPs had impressed them (excluding cabinet ministers and party leaders). Here are their (six) picks:

New Democrat Christine Moore is also a first-timer from the northern Quebec riding of Abitibi-Temiscamingue and has won the admiration of even her Conservative peers for the heat she’s been putting on Julian Fantino and the government over the government’s fighter plane purchase.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/01/10/-a-tip-of-the-political-hat-to-thos...

To remind us: she was 27 when elected (now 28). "Up until the day before the election, I was working in a small health care centre as a clinical nurse in the intensive care unit and the emergency room. I would like to commend all the workers at the Centre de santé et de services sociaux des Aurores-Boréales who work hard every day to preserve one of the things that Canadians value most: a public health care system." That was in the small northern town of La Sarre (pop. 7,336 and shrinking) near where she was born, across the Quebec border from Cochrane.

But in those 27 years she had done a few things no one else from La Sarre had done. While still a nursing student at Cégep de l’Abitibi-Témiscamingue, at age 22 she had been the NDP candidate in Abitibi—Témiscamingue in 2006, getting 8.5% of the vote. Just after graduating she did it again in 2008, getting 9.5%.

"As part of her undergraduate program, she participated in a humanitarian field placement in the remote Senegalese village of Thiaré, where she delivered health services alongside other nursing students and members of Nurses Without Borders." She spent three years with the Canadian Forces. "Her three years with the Forces were as a reservist with the 52 Field Ambulance (Sherbrooke), where she attained the rank of corporal. “In the military, I was sometimes the only person around with any degree of medical knowledge, so it was up to me to make tough decisions on the spot. I had the authority to override the opinion of a major who, during exercises, might say, ‘This soldier doesn’t look so bad; I don’t think he needs a medical evacuation.’ This helped me gain the confidence required to think and act fast in stressful conditions." “Nurses are extremely adaptable to new circumstances because we have evidence, science and ethics to guide our decision-making,” says Moore.”

http://www.canadian-nurse.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=501%3Arookie-mp-jumps-in-with-both-feet&catid=2%3Anurse-to-know&Itemid=37&lang=en

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What is one thing about you that people would be surprised to learn?

I took a one-year welding and fitting course.

So in 2011, on her third try for Parliament, she was ready, getting 51.2%, defeating a Bloc incumbent who got only 31.6%. Was this just the "Orange Wave?" In the far North? (Although I should note that her riding is only 4% aboriginal.)

And Corporal Moore moved straight into the shadow cabinet as associate defence critic and critic for military procurement. Nobody's baby, to coin a phrase.

She is supporting her neighbour Romeo Saganash for leader. Maybe we should listen to her. If Saganash drops during the balloting, I may be watching to see who she endorses next.


janfromthebruce
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Thanks Wilf - she sure is nobody's baby well except our wonderful MP from Quebec.


Wilf Day
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While I was proposing toasts at the pub tonight to 2011-star Corporal Christine Moore, someone asked "does the NDP website have anything about her? Or has the party public relations staff decided to acquiesce to the meme that the Quebec caucus were all place-holders?"

No. Opportunity missed. Not for the first time.


Howard
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I too have been impressed by Christine Moore. Definitely someone to watch.


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She is supporting her neighbour Romeo Saganash for leader. Maybe we should listen to her. If Saganash drops during the balloting, I may be watching to see who she endorses next.

Dear Sun Media's Parliamentary Bureau Chief David Akin: Why the hell not listen to her now? When she's endorsing Romeo Saganash? Why not watch now? Or does it mess up the narrative you've worked out for this thing over there at the Sun Media Parliamentary Bureau?

Her second best is preferable to Sun Media Parliamentary Bureau Chief David Akin. Because her best is ...

 


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writer wrote:

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She is supporting her neighbour Romeo Saganash for leader. Maybe we should listen to her. If Saganash drops during the balloting, I may be watching to see who she endorses next.

Dear Sun Media's Parliamentary Bureau Chief David Akin: Why the hell not listen to her now? When she's endorsing Romeo Saganash? Why not watch now? Or does it mess up the narrative you've worked out for this thing over there at the Sun Media Parliamentary Bureau?

Her second best is preferable to Sun Media Parliamentary Bureau Chief David Akin. Because her best is ...

She was Saganash's first MP endorsement and a glowing one at that. I was surprised when Genest-Jourdain didn't follow suit, but Boom Boom has explained his reasoning (Genest-Jourdain thinks Mulcair is more of a sure thing, for winning). What is clear to me, is Saganash is outstanding, but I'm still waiting for him to seize his moment. His life story inspires the hell out of me but he needs to show that he can transmit that inspiration in a speech, or a debate, to a live audience. I can only see one real weakness in Saganash, and that is his lack of experience as an elected politician (yes I know he was in the Cree leadership but that is like saying Topp was in the union leadership, both true but the experiences do not translate 100%). If this race had happened in four or five years, I would not be the least surprised if Saganash was being called the frontrunner. Like Genest-Jourdain, I consider Mulcair the best candidate to take on the job right now, as opposed to down the road. If anyone near to Saganash is reading this, please take this message to your candidate: "Give the performance of your life at the next debate or public speech you give. Pretend you are never going to get to run for Prime Minister again. Given that the NDP picks leaders every 10 years you may never get this chance again. Make it count. Leave nothing to regret." 


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Stephen Harper's Canada - by Anne Lagace Dowson

http://hour.ca/2012/02/23/stephen-harpers-canada/

"...There is a lesson here for the NDP. Since the election the NDP has been virtually invisible in Quebec. They are blowing a grand opportunity. At its best, the party is the sum of all the aspirations of tens of thousands of Canadians who have worked all their lives building a civil society. Perhaps its time for the NDP to reach out to its allies in that civil society, allies like Heidi Rathjen, to draft a strategy to take on the Tories, before it's too late."

http://digitaljournal.com/article/319727


Unionist
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That's a courageous article by Anne Lagacé Dowson - defeated NDP candidate in Westmount-Ville-Marie, and greatly-missed CBC radio host around these parts. Thanks again for finding it, NDPP.

The NDP would do well to pay attention to voices like these.

 


Boom Boom
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Genest-Jourdain is a riot. Did anyone catch the video of him fussing about his hair in Question Period? And he was on 22 Minutes Monday. Laughing


janfromthebruce
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BB, I saw him do his hair and loved it - so very cheeky and endearing and yet I knew when he spoke he meant business and nobody should take his "fun" and "playing to the camera" as showing him less than what he is - a very engaging MP who is smart.


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Genest-Jourdain and I have been Facebook friends for a while. He's quite good-humoured.


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