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Vimy Park in Outremont to be renamed Jacques Parizeau Park
June 17, 2016 - 1:07pm
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Montreal's Outremont borough moves to rename Vimy Park after Jacques Parizeau
French Quebecers are being presented (accurately) as having hated World War I, which they saw (accurately) as Canada simply following Britain into some colonial battle, costing more Canadian lives than World War II did. Quebecers rose up against conscription and several gave their lives in that struggle.
The other side of the MSM coin is that "Canadians" are being presented as in love with the "legacy" of WWI, with the mass slaughter of Vimy being the defining moment that somehow created Canada as a unified nation.
Yes, many people are the victims of propaganda, and we can't really blame them for that. But if there were ever a referendum question: "Should we rename Vimy Park and leave Canada, or keep the name and stay in Canada?" - I know how I'd vote.
Well, first of all our primary means of remembering and teaching history probably shouldn't be through the naming of small municipal parks. Or else where is "Japanese Internment Park"?
Second, buddy will be pleased to know that the nation of France has named an entire TOWN after Vimy. And joking aside, it's home to Canada's largest war monument. I doubt we'll forget.
Thanks for that, Magoo - I concur.
But there's a big question here. When and how are we going to deal with the glorification of World War I? It never ends. In Québec, it has no legs. But what does the "rest of Canada" really know or understand about what happened there and why? I'm not suggesting that Quebecers have figured it out. But we all need to.
When are they putting out a call for bids for a new monument to be placed in the park? I have plans for a giant stainless steel box of tissues - the working title is "Money and the Ethnic Vote".
On a slightly more serious note, I too am tired of whoever is responsible trying to slap a commemorative label glorifying militarism on every park and natural feature in the country. Then again, a few signs and a little bit of paint are a LOT cheaper than actually paying on promises made to veterans.
I'm not a fan of naming the park after either Vimy or Jaques Parizeau. I wish they would find a name that is neither a First World War battle or a former racist politician.
"Capitalism Park"
See-saw: 50 cents.
"Racist". You know nothing about Parizeau. You are the poster children for why someday Québec may declare its independence. What a shameful display.
He's not "French". Are you serious??
Two ignorant comments. Absolutely amazing. You believe everything you read in MSM headlines? Have you ever considered doing your own investigation?
"Jane Goodall Park"
Please don't call them "monkey bars".
Both of your comments are ignorant - copycat comments from the MSM, without any investigation whatsoever. Shame.
Jacques Parizeau, former PQ premier, slams charter of values
Get back to me when (and if) you've looked into this.
ETA: By the way, did you get that Parizeau was not a "French politician" - or do you need that racist comment further deconstructed??
You call someone "racist", you have a responsibility to justify that. I really don't respect your "opinion" without a little bit of, like, evidence. If your entire proof is based on a comment he made on referendum night, which he explained later - then you really haven't got the foggiest clue. Don't go name-calling a progressive political figure who helped bring way more progressive measures to Québec than the rest of Canada has managed to swallow to this day.
Have you looked into the article I linked, and other resources as to what Jacques Parizeau said and meant and fought for? Or do you just feel comfortable calling someone a "racist" because it tickles your fancy?
Exactly. Chimps aren't monkeys, so ... Please don't call them "monkey bars". That was the (failed?) joke.
Oh for heaven's sake. Maybe we should start with all the "Churchill"s and "Macdonalds" in Canada. And every "Garnet" and "Wolseley".
Then work our way down to the "McClungs" and "Douglas"s until we just give everything a number.
Ok, we can debate whether Parizeau's "money and the ethnic vote" comment was racist. I would contend that he was referring not only to white anglos, but also to poc immigrants, arguing that if we hadn't allowed them to come to Quebec the referendum would have passed. If he was only referring to white anglos, it may not be the racist comment I thought it was.
Regardless, I think that Pareizeau's "money and the ethnic vote" comment was in poor taste, and that he is therefore undeserving of having anything named after him.
I am not a big fan of Monsieur Parizeau, but let's look at the facts. He was an economist during the Quiet Revolution and was responsible for nationalizing Hydro Quebec and establishing the QPP. He was finance minister in René Lévesque's and a long-serving premier ministre of Québec. it is true he made a deplorable comment after losing the referendum, but he made a positive contribution to Québec society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_ParizeauAnd if you don't like parks and buildings named after racists, look
I am not a big fan of Monsieur Parizeau, but let's look at the facts. He was an economist during the Quiet Revolution and was responsible for nationalizing Hydro Quebec and establishing the QPP. He was finance minister in René Lévesque's and a long-serving premier ministre of Québec. it is true he made a deplorable comment after losing the referendum, but he made a positive contribution to Québec society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_ParizeauAnd if you don't like parks and buildings named after racists, look
I am not a big fan of Monsieur Parizeau, but let's look at the facts. He was an economist during the Quiet Revolution and was responsible for nationalizing Hydro Quebec and establishing the QPP. He was finance minister in René Lévesque's and a long-serving premier ministre of Québec. it is true he made a deplorable comment after losing the referendum, but he made a positive contribution to Québec society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_ParizeauAnd if you don't like parks and buildings named after racists, look
I am not a big fan of Monsieur Parizeau, but let's look at the facts. He was an economist during the Quiet Revolution and was responsible for nationalizing Hydro Quebec and establishing the QPP. He was finance minister in René Lévesque's and a long-serving premier ministre of Québec. it is true he made a deplorable comment after losing the referendum, but he made a positive contribution to Québec society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Parizeau
I am not a big fan of Monsieur Parizeau, but let's look at the facts. He was an economist during the Quiet Revolution and was responsible for nationalizing Hydro Quebec and establishing the QPP. He was finance minister in René Lévesque's and a long-serving premier ministre of Québec. it is true he made a deplorable comment after losing the referendum, but he made a positive contribution to Québec society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Parizeau
"Ethnic votes" referred to a coalition of "ethnic élite" organizations supposedly representing the Italian, Jewish and Greek communities. Those organizations were and remain deeply undemocratic. I know the leftist Italo-Québécois who fought the Congresso, and we all know how any progressive Jewish people who were the slightest opposed to Israel's oppression of the Palestinian people were shut out of the Jewish Federation, which has re-emerged as a voice for "Israeli and Jewish" interests. There were similar challenges to the Greek organization.
"Money" referred to money flooding in illegally from the RoC to the No side. Some have insinuated that it was an anti-semitic dog whistle, but there was no evidence of this.
Parizeau was despressed and had more than a few wee drams in his throat at the time, and was made to step down from everything after the comment.
Alexandre Boulerice also caught flak for stating the obvious, that the "Great War" was crowned heads and capitlaists sending the sons of workers and farmers to massacre each other. Jean Jaurès and Rosa Luxemburg said the same, at a very sad socialist meeting against the war just before the guns of August. Both of them were murdered by militarists.
I think this is just fine. It is good to not forget:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/duncan-campbell-scott-plaque-update...
How is he any worse than the man on our 10 dollar bill? Or the hundred? After all, Borden was PM when the government learned that the death rates in some of those institutions was 70 percent, and he did nothing.
And what are they going to do, chisel out the edifice of the Thomas Scott Memorial Hall in Winnipeg?
That is why this flap over Parizeau is ridiculous. I don't downplay what he said, but it isn't imposing the War Measures Act. He made an important contribution, and he deserves the honour.
Thanks for setting the record straight, lagatta! And you might have added that Parizeau publicly told the PQ to drop their "Charter of Values" - which he said was really just an attack on female Muslims.